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2014 - 2015 Draft Discussion

lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

2014 - 2015 DRAFT DISCUSSION

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  • Phil_OPastryPhil_OPastry Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 368

    THIS will be a draft to remember. LOL

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    Great picks so far. Overall much better options available this season in the first two rounds. IMO

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    @wesbaedke said:
    Great picks so far. Overall much better options available this season in the first two rounds. IMO

    I'll only agree if one of those options actually land on my team and they end up outperforming their draft position. Lol

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @Tek said:
    wesbaedke‌ - How you feeling about that D. Will selection ? I know it's a risk/reward pick but I couldn't stomach another season. Hope you get better value.

    Even based on per game value alone and where he got him at it looks like it will post solid returns. Especially with the news about his ankles being 100 times better. I mean, hard to be an elite pg when your ankles swell up every time you move. Lol. He would have been my first pg off the board. Yup... Over Dragic @sald0gg‌

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140
    edited September 2014

    A Dragic/Bledsoe tandem would've been kinda cool to own. Oh well.

    Nice to have @lilstinkylynx support on my pick. :D

    ...time will tell.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    @wesbaedke said:
    A Dragic/Bledsoe tandem would've been kinda cool to own. Oh well.

    Nice to have lilstinkylynx support on my pick. :D

    ...time will tell.

    I'm leery of Dragic to be honest. I know that Bledsoe may be shipped out at some point, but until then, you have three pg's who all gain value from usage and not necessarily the traditional assist route. That's just a bad combo for him to return the value and numbers from last season.

    Plus, I do think Deron has the higher ceiling due to team dynamics alone this season and for me at least, that first pick has to pay dividends if you plan on competing in this league. I compare it to drafting a first round player that busts. You can't make that up. In our league, (where you had already mentioned that the pool seems better this year than last) I'm going for a guy who has a nice floor but also has a crazy high ceiling.

  • sald0ggsald0gg Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 18

    I own deron in a 16 team keeper and didn't want to double the risk. Dragic should post top 30 numbers which isn't bad from my 6th best player ;-)

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    @sald0gg said:
    I own deron in a 16 team keeper and didn't want to double the risk. Dragic should post top 30 numbers which isn't bad from my 6th best player ;-)

    Oh stop it...nobody wants to hear about your team. Ha

  • Phil_OPastryPhil_OPastry Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 368
    edited September 2014

    @sald0gg said:
    I own deron in a 16 team keeper and didn't want to double the risk. Dragic should post top 30 numbers which isn't bad from my 6th best player ;-)

    Considering I have maybe one player in the top 30... I wish your team nothing but injuries and suspensions. :P

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    @sald0gg - What is a trade for Paul George going to cost?

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @Phil_OPastry said:
    Considering I have maybe one player in the top 30... I wish your team nothing but injuries and suspensions. :P

    He has one injured player now. LOL

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Hey guys, please post your rosters and keep them updated as the draft goes along for all the managers. Thanks

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    @floetryInMotion - Good pick w/ Gortat. Setting up for another solid season in Washington. Only reason for a drop in #s will be missed games but a healthy 13/14 season is encouraging. Should be $.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    Surprised I got both my PGs that I was gunning for.

    Side note - Still not a fan of you keeping Kobe @Tek‌

    Hoping to eat my words. Huge Kobe fan.

  • TekTek Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 79
    edited September 2014

    @lilstinkylynx‌ - we shall see, but worst case scenario he is still the #1 option on a depleted Lakers team.
    I expect a down tick in pts per game but an uptick in FG% and assists.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @Tek said:
    lilstinkylynx‌ - we shall see, but worst case scenario he is still the #1 option on a depleted Lakers team.
    I expect a down tick in pts per game but an uptick in FG% and assists.

    I don't doubt that he could come back to form. I just don't see his value in a keeper league when he's done in two. I thought Gay would have been a better option.

    With that said. I need Kobe to do well because it sucks being a Laker fan right now.

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    Longest. Draft. Ever.

    Season starts Oct 28th...the way things have gone the past 36 hours, we might be in the 8th round by then. Let's go!

  • Phil_OPastryPhil_OPastry Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 368
    edited September 2014

    @wesbaedke said:
    Longest. Draft. Ever.

    Season starts Oct 28th...the way things have gone the past 36 hours, we might be in the 8th round by then. Let's go!

    I agree. Can someone e-mail me in 2 weeks when it's my pick at 5.02? ;)

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @Phil_OPastry said:
    I agree. Can someone e-mail me in 2 weeks when it's my pick at 5.02? ;)

    Managers have the option at this moment to use their entire time limit. It gives a chance to make the best pick and make moves. I will change the time limit in two weeks if necessary but we will hold steady for now.

    As a courtesy, stay active, message the next manager for their turn, email or message me or any other manager a list of potential picks If you know you'll be away.

    Thanks everyone.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Btw guys, make sure you are messaging the next manager and not just posting on their wall. I've had a few mentioned that they didn't receive messages and as a result didn't know they were up.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Could someone update the draft thread for me with the picks. I'm a bit swamped at work and don't have time. I messaged the next manager already and made the pick to move the draft along.

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140
  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    @wesbaedke said:
    Updated

    Thanks

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    Solid value picks w/ McBob and D Green...both guys were in my sights. I knew Smart wasn't going to be there much longer. Hoping for another MCW type upside pick like last season. Trade Rondo!

  • FloetryInMotionFloetryInMotion Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 17

    I was strongly considering Marcus over McBob, if they actually trade rondo that'll be a pretty massive steal

  • sald0ggsald0gg Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 18

    Now Rondo out 2 months

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    Wow...perfect timing. Value up!

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Seems like we should be on track to finish by start of the season. Would be great if we could finish early so I can enter all the rosters into yahoo. It's going to be a busy month for me so any help to move things along would be greatly appreciated.

    Also, was wondering if anyone else dedicated enough may want to join me as a co-commish.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @wesbaedke said:
    Solid value picks w/ McBob and D Green...both guys were in my sights. I knew Smart wasn't going to be there much longer. Hoping for another MCW type upside pick like last season. Trade Rondo!

    His percentages scare the heck out of me though. Just like MCW last season. Only @Sald0gg really has the team to handle that kind of hit. Heck, he has a team to handle any type of player. Lol

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    He will fit nicely on my bench where he can appreciate in value.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @wesbaedke said:
    He will fit nicely on my bench where he can appreciate in value.

    Nice!!!

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    I did this last season for each round and was pretty on the money it turns out so I figure I give it another go. Comment and blast away guys. Would love some input.

    Round One Analysis

    • Best Pick - Tie between @Tek and @Phil_OPastry‌. Although I expect Jabari to be the more productive of the two this season, both teams are in complete dismantle and rebuild mode and they picked up a nice young cornerstone to build going forward. @tek is actually setting himself up very well for next season IMO. @Phil_OPastry‌ is another season away before he will see the fruits of his rebuild.
    • Worst Pick - I'll have to give this one to @baller7037‌ who yet again gave away a first round pick and is again behind the eight ball. For a team that's been rebuilding for so long, losing that first pick makes the process so much harder. With that said, @baller7037‌ drafted much better this season than in season pasta IMO. I'm not blasting him as much this season afterall (for now at least) Lol
    • Honorable Mention (Negative) - This pick goes to @tonym who I felt grabbed Jimmy a bit too early. I just feel there's more value that could have been had. I see the Kawhi type production Jimmy may be able to give but with the amount of playtime he's actually gotten, he's underwhelmed IMO.
    • Honorable Mention (Positive) - This one goes to @sald0gg‌ who got a 2nd round pick out of George who would have given him no value this season and more than likely wouldn't have been kept going into next season anyways. Well done my friend. You're on top of your game this season.
  • tonymtonym Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 54
    1. Best: 2.6 FloetryInMotion - Marcin Gortat. Will have a real good year.
    2. best(Hon. mentions): 1.7 FloetryInMotion - DeMar DeRozann: all star this year
    3. best(Hon. mentions): 7.8 KJ McDaniels - The dude is a beast and he will get PT and lots of blocks.
    4. Worst: I saw a lot of Jabari Parker last year and he need to hit the weights. NCAA teams Clemson and Mercer took advantage of him.
    5. Worst: Honorable mention: (watch it)the injury bug is coming back especially to some Team USA guys
  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    My round two analysis...

    Best Picks:
    Ariza (2.3) Gortat (2.6) Duncan (2.8) -- I feel these three are best/safest bets to produce top 50 numbers this season. Proven vets that each carry some risk (injured past, age, new team) but overall can't beat the value at this point in the draft. All should be building blocks to a successful run this season.

    Honorable:
    Calderon (2.12) -- Some risk here running the new offensive system and how Fisher uses him but I really like his fit in the triangle offense. He's going to get back to a dependable 7-9 assists a game. He's the last of the PGs that can offer the same upside.

    Worst:
    T. Chandler (2.4) -- There were several C's with more potential left on the board, it didn't make much sense for Chandler to go at this point. His value is tied to only a few categories and I believe he easily could've been had at least a couple rounds later. Very limited upside here.

    Questionable:
    Embiid (2.9) -- Jury will be out on him for awhile. I think there is a good chance this guy is a Ibaka type player sooner rather than later. The only reason I put him in here is because of the cheap price that Noel traded for this offseason. I don't see a similar thing happening here, especially if Embiid can clear his injury hurdles. Again, not saying this is a bad pick, there is plenty of upside if he's managed correctly.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @wesbaedke said:
    My round two analysis...

    Best Picks:
    Ariza (2.3) Gortat (2.6) Duncan (2.8) -- I feel these three are best/safest bets to produce top 50 numbers this season. Proven vets that each carry some risk (injured past, age, new team) but overall can't beat the value at this point in the draft. All should be building blocks to a successful run this season.

    Honorable:
    Calderon (2.12) -- Some risk here running the new offensive system and how Fisher uses him but I really like his fit in the triangle offense. He's going to get back to a dependable 7-9 assists a game. He's the last of the PGs that can offer the same upside.

    Worst:
    T. Chandler (2.4) -- There were several C's with more potential left on the board, it didn't make much sense for Chandler to go at this point. His value is tied to only a few categories and I believe he easily could've been had at least a couple rounds later. Very limited upside here.

    Questionable:
    Embiid (2.9) -- Jury will be out on him for awhile. I think there is a good chance this guy is a Ibaka type player sooner rather than later. The only reason I put him in here is because of the cheap price that Noel traded for this offseason. I don't see a similar thing happening here, especially if Embiid can clear his injury hurdles. Again, not saying this is a bad pick, there is plenty of upside if he's managed correctly.

    My thoughts exactly. I'd go with Gortat as best pick of the three because I see him as the Center who finishes highest cumulatively.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Hey guys, a lot of managers have needed to be reminded to draft because messages have been posted on their wall instead of a pm being sent. Please keep that in mind. I've needed to message members so that they can get their email notifications.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    Round Three Analysis

    • Best Pick - This pick goes to @sald0gg‌ for drafting Josh Smith. For a team which averaged well over .500 in FG% going in, his team can easily absorb Josh Smith's horrendous shooting last season. With news that he'll focus on playing more inside and shooting less outside, I expect more of the old Josh when compared to last season. This means his steals and blocks and rebounding will only foster Sal's dominance in those cats and make it harder for us to catch him. One caveat of taking on Josh and having Lebron and Drummond on the team already is that Sal completely negated any of Durant's and Westbrook's massive value in FT% (Good for me, so I'm not complaining. Lol).
    • Worst Pick - I'll have to give this one to @sald0gg‌ as well for Arron Afflalo. I know he wanted to get Korver which would have been a great fit for his team, but with Foye still on the team and really having a great breakout last season and a returning Gallo... I'm not sure how productive he will be. I had plenty of three point specialists ranked ahead of him so this may be my bias but I'm not a huge fan of the pick (I'm actually a huge fan of the pick in that if my predictions are right, I again improve my chances of repeating. Lol).
    • Honorable Mention (Negative) - This pick goes to @baller7037‌ who drafted Jeff Green. Among the players in this round with contract seasons going in (and there are plenty), I expect Green to be the most unproductive of the bunch from a fantasy standpoint. He's a player who has always underwhelmed IMO. The fact he played on a horrible team last season and could not shine makes his prospects for this season not much better. With Rondo eventually coming back and Smart there now and Olynyk and other guys ready to step up, I see Green as a downside player rather than upside player.
    • Honorable Mention (Positive) - This one goes to @JMAC‌ who drafted Gorgui Dieng. Not a fan of this pick originally (even though I love the kid with all he's shown us through last season and Fiba), since I thought it was too early for a guy not guaranteed playing time. News now with Pekovic being limited to 26-27 minutes means that the Timberwolves have faith in the kid and plan on giving him some major run. Still early IMO in regard to where he got drafted, but I'm loving the returns for this kid this season and especially in the long run. A legit Keeper player going into next season.
  • Phil_OPastryPhil_OPastry Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 368

    I thought my selection of Payton in the third round would have been the panned one.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited September 2014

    @Phil_OPastry said:
    I thought my selection of Payton in the third round would have been the panned one.

    Not at all. I'm looking at team dynamics as well. You're obviously rebuilding and there's really no way you finish higher than 11 out of 12 IMO so I can't hate on you swinging for young players with upside. It fits into your strategy for this season which was getting keeper potential players and draft picks.

    Moreso, you might have fallen into the honorable mention list for positive, but I decided Dieng will have better returns this season.

  • Phil_OPastryPhil_OPastry Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 368
    edited September 2014

    Some analysis on the 4th round.

    The pick I really like here is George Hill. I expect big things from the guy for a few reasons - firstly, no Stephenson and no George to defer to. Hill's usage will increase dramatically - in fact I expect him to put up top 50 stats this season, his assists, 3's and scoring will all go up.

    Honourable mentions go out to Jasonuoft and Baller for the selections of Sullinger and Jordan Hill respectively. Both should do well and see their numbers go up across the board.

    Looking at the fourth round I can not really find picks I hate... but there are a few I don't like.

    Not a fan of Hawes as I think he'll have a big drop off playing behind Griffin and DeAndre Jordan. I don't like Eric Gordon's selection either, but that comes down to me simply hating Eric Gordon for fantasy due to his knees and injury concerns. I like Wilson Chandler as a player, but not in the 4th because he is such a feast or famine type player. He might get buried on the bench, or at the very least be doing a time share with Gallo and Quincy Miller.

    Anyway, just a few thoughts.

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    Good stuff. My top picks for rd 3 go to @lilstinkylinx 'Kieff Morris (3.3) who will take that next step w/ an additional minutes bump this season and I also really liked @barrec's pick of Korver (3.9) who is a solid value grab. My worst pick is @tonym's pick of Jennings (3.10) who killed me last season...and yes, it still stings.

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    I agree with @phil_opastry's thoughts on rd 4. Hill will rebound back to those 12/13 #s and is a great get by @tonym there. Same thoughts on his other players as well...couldn't have said it better!

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @wesbaedke said:
    Good stuff. My top picks for rd 3 go to lilstinkylinx 'Kieff Morris (3.3) who will take that next step w/ an additional minutes bump this season and I also really liked barrec's pick of Korver (3.9) who is a solid value grab. My worst pick is tonym's pick of Jennings (3.10) who killed me last season...and yes, it still stings.

    Anyone drafting Jennings knows what your getting into. He's a one man wrecking crew when it comes to fg% so I stay away from him always. I can see how last season hurt a lot since his numbers dropped across the board. Ouch x2.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @tonym‌ @wesbaedke‌ @Phil_OPastry‌ Thanks for the write ups and input guys. This draft discussion board was a bit slow. Lol.

    All posts have been very helpful and a fun read.

  • wesbaedkewesbaedke Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 140

    @lilstinkylynx said:
    Anyone drafting Jennings knows what your getting into. He's a one man wrecking crew when it comes to fg% so I stay away from him always. I can see how last season hurt a lot since his numbers dropped across the board. Ouch x2.

    It's more than that for me...if you remember (in this league) I traded Griffin for BJ last season before the draft (both ranked around 45 in preseason), thinking that I'd benefit from offsetting negative categories and come out ahead. Didn't foresee (like an idiot) the big jump in Griffin's fantasy impact. Again, it still stings.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @wesbaedke said:
    It's more than that for me...if you remember (in this league) I traded Griffin for BJ last season before the draft (both ranked around 45 in preseason), thinking that I'd benefit from offsetting negative categories and come out ahead. Didn't foresee (like an idiot) the big jump in Griffin's fantasy impact. Again, it still stings.

    Lol. I tried not to mention that part and decrease the pain.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    Would be great to close out this draft by the end of next week so I have some time to input rosters and we can be more active in the FA pool as training camp ramps up.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460
    edited October 2014

    Round Five Analysis

    • Best Pick - This was a round filled with marginal bigs and marginal guards. I'll focus on the guards in determining the best pick for this round just because the pickings are getting extremely thin, and that particularly goes for the remaining point guards. Of the bunch, I'm going to make a bold statement and say that @jasonuoft‌ and his selection of Brandon Knight will pay dividends. How big you ask... career year is my answer. Yup, he will crush his ADP and will shock the world with his production this season. I'm going out on a limb here and giving Kidd a lot of credit in that I think he will do wonders for Knight. Similar to what I thought Doc would do for DeAndre last season, I'm predicting the same effect on Brandon. I would have gone Reggie Jackson here if not for the fact he's coached by an idiot.
    • Worst Pick - This one goes to @barrec‌ and his selection of Iggy. I expect Iggy will eventually run the second unit when it's all said and done and that will actually help his value IMO. But I also see them reducing Iggy's minutes to save him for the playoffs. He's no spring chicken anymore and they need his defense when it counts and that won't be during the regular season. This is where Draymond Green will get a lot of run. Not only to save Iggy's legs but also just to build off his confidence from last season and the playoffs. Not to mention, Green is a much better fit next to Lee and Bogut than Iggy.
    • Honorable Mention (Negative) - I'll have to give this one to @baller7037‌. I don't know his obsession with Channing Frye. I've never been a big fan. Nothing wrong with the pick based on the numbers Frye has produced throughout his career, but if I'm choosing between Frye and Harris, I'm going Harris.
    • Honorable Mention (Positive) - This one goes to @Phil_OPastry‌ who drafted Tobias Harris. Unlike Frye who's on the downside of his career, Tobias is on the upswing and his numbers are fantasy gold in Roto. I would draft the kid if I were a rebuild team just based on the pure potential. He hurts you nowhere and gives across the board production. Harris will be ranked higher CUM than Frye... Quote me on it.
  • jasonuoftjasonuoft Member, League - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 125
    edited October 2014

    I am joining lynx and folks to share my opinion on the picks.

    Round 1

    • best pick. DeMar DeRozan by Floetryinmotion. As close to as a sure thing for cross the board production in the middle rounds. He averaged over 22 points, 4 boards, 4 assists,1+ steal and close to 1 trey. Not the 1 trick pony anymore And his only 25.

    • worst pick. Jimmy Butler. Not a bad pick but just better options available. Hard to rely on him getting consistent production day in and day out with Rose back.he was on my team last year, and there were frustrating times.

    • why my pick. Jrue Holliday. Keeper potential for sure if he can recover fully from mysterious injury. I think he will.

    Round 2

    • best pick. Marcin Gortat by Floetry. I was ready to pick him if I didnt already have 2 Cs from keepers. Best awailable center at that point who gives consistent stats.

    • worst pick. Kevin Martin by myself. Was scrambling to fit the needs of an SG and 3s, also hoping to neutralize Deandre Jordan's FT%. Looking back, that can be fulfilled at a later round. K-mart only shot 35% from the field last year without Kevin Love. I would do fine if he can stay healthy, but doesn't look likely.

  • lilstinkylynxlilstinkylynx Member, Commish - Heroes Keeper League Posts: 460

    @jasonuoft said:
    I am joining lynx and folks to share my opinion on the picks.

    Round 1

    • best pick. DeMar DeRozan by Floetryinmotion. As close to as a sure thing for cross the board production in the middle rounds. He averaged over 22 points, 4 boards, 4 assists,1+ steal and close to 1 trey. Not the 1 trick pony anymore And his only 25.

    • worst pick. Jimmy Butler. Not a bad pick but just better options available. Hard to rely on him getting consistent production day in and day out with Rose back.he was on my team last year, and there were frustrating times.

    • why my pick. Jrue Holliday. Keeper potential for sure if he can recover fully from mysterious injury. I think he will.

    Round 2

    • best pick. Marcin Gortat by Floetry. I was ready to pick him if I didnt already have 2 Cs from keepers. Best awailable center at that point who gives consistent stats.

    • worst pick. Kevin Martin by myself. Was scrambling to fit the needs of an SG and 3s, also hoping to neutralize Deandre Jordan's FT%. Looking back, that can be fulfilled at a later round. K-mart only shot 35% from the field last year without Kevin Love. I would do fine if he can stay healthy, but doesn't look likely.

    Nice job buddy and glad to see you join the convo. Should be a good season. Keep the thoughts coming.

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